Match 50002935
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Match 50002935
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00:37
Dunkerque:
do u remember if people could fit the 4th bersa in?
01:12
NEP_wilson_NEP:
i saw people do it but it was rare
01:36
Dunkerque:
show me the aussie MU
01:43
Dunkerque:
go straight to vet 1 w/ training and scopes
02:10
NEP_wilson_NEP:
scoped?
02:11
Dunkerque:
ye
03:02
Dunkerque:
its 30mp reinforce for bersa how much is aussie?
03:10
NEP_wilson_NEP:
31
04:34
Dunkerque:
spawn in a 30 cal
04:38
Dunkerque:
i need the see nade damage
05:07
NEP_wilson_NEP:
lmao
05:18
NEP_wilson_NEP:
relic didnt buff it like other nade
05:26
Dunkerque:
xddddddddd
05:32
NEP_wilson_NEP:
the aoe is still small
06:04
Dunkerque:
tragic
06:22
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah i didnt use any nade from bersa
06:33
Dunkerque:
use the ai blob
07:03
NEP_wilson_NEP:
it has traning
07:05
Dunkerque:
xd
07:09
Dunkerque:
its fine
07:19
Dunkerque:
just seeing the double strafe
07:47
Dunkerque:
xddd
07:51
Dunkerque:
220 muni vs 125 muni
08:00
NEP_wilson_NEP:
peak
08:03
Dunkerque:
do it again
08:08
NEP_wilson_NEP:
wait why it stop
08:17
Dunkerque:
where did u aim it?
08:27
NEP_wilson_NEP:
at vp
08:45
NEP_wilson_NEP:
now i aim it at your hq
09:36
Dunkerque:
fascinating
09:39
NEP_wilson_NEP:
ohhhh
09:47
NEP_wilson_NEP:
try mg
10:33
NEP_wilson_NEP:
first one on vp second one on your hq
11:16
NEP_wilson_NEP:
ohhh
11:17
Dunkerque:
was this always how it worked?
11:22
NEP_wilson_NEP:
no
11:47
Dunkerque:
try it again
11:58
Dunkerque:
the mg bunker does have crazy suppression maybe its a decent enough counter
12:27
Dunkerque:
cant get off mapped or arty'ed super fast either
13:25
NEP_wilson_NEP:
zook doesnt target emplacement
13:26
Dunkerque:
wait does zook not even bother shooting emplacements
13:29
Dunkerque:
ye
13:43
NEP_wilson_NEP:
it used to do it but not now
14:07
NEP_wilson_NEP:
so back to dak simcity?
14:12
Dunkerque:
feelsbadman
14:22
Dunkerque:
u wanna give up bersa bg or espi bg?
14:35
Dunkerque:
u can still rush an anti 30 cal off map with prop war
14:50
NEP_wilson_NEP:
sure if we know we are fighting mg spam
15:26
Dunkerque:
ye pretty much a forced pin situation like a strafe just no dmg
16:10
Dunkerque:
sure as in rushing prop war or sure as in going italian inf?
16:44
Dunkerque:
i am basically asking u to fill in the void of offmaps that espi creates
16:53
NEP_wilson_NEP:
italian inf
17:09
NEP_wilson_NEP:
try it first before cope bersa
17:32
NEP_wilson_NEP:
do it again
17:38
NEP_wilson_NEP:
i will look at cooldown
17:44
Dunkerque:
wtf
17:50
Dunkerque:
they actually just retreat to ur base
18:40
Dunkerque:
50 sec cd for prop war
18:42
Dunkerque:
90 muni
18:56
NEP_wilson_NEP:
mine still 120 sec left
19:18
Dunkerque:
does also deny usf free model reinforcements compared to other counters
19:20
NEP_wilson_NEP:
but cooldown start after i used the ability
19:29
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah
19:41
Dunkerque:
was disgusted when i found out the models can be picked up from the ai blob
20:19
NEP_wilson_NEP:
they should increase the cooldown from 180 to 240
20:46
NEP_wilson_NEP:
it only take 60 second cooldown after duration ran out
21:30
Dunkerque:
set up a training bl5.5
21:45
Dunkerque:
and we'll do no insta cds to see something
22:23
Dunkerque:
give it vet 1 so it gets the bonuses
23:24
Dunkerque:
its 45 sec cd on canone what is it for vet bl?
23:34
NEP_wilson_NEP:
48 sec
24:20
Dunkerque:
i think canone can match or surpass the bl in vp pressure no?
24:25
Dunkerque:
bc of auto fire
24:27
Dunkerque:
and smoke
24:30
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah
24:47
NEP_wilson_NEP:
bl doesnt accurate for high up time as bishop
24:50
Dunkerque:
so long as canone and bl cant really counter each other its really a question of vp pressure uptime unless one side wants to gamble counter battery
24:54
NEP_wilson_NEP:
*or
25:09
Dunkerque:
u can even canone barrage the bl to bait out counter barrage then tow it away and set up to control vp
25:13
NEP_wilson_NEP:
canone might just kill be since it can move
25:54
Dunkerque:
of course if u go prop war to counter ai blob and u dont need mg nest u can go hold the line for giga canone uptime
26:16
NEP_wilson_NEP:
what about muni?
26:32
Dunkerque:
its a 40 muni ability u can just save it when u need vp pressure
27:45
Dunkerque:
that is a surprising amount of dmg given the range and no vision
28:35
NEP_wilson_NEP:
let me try to repair
28:48
Dunkerque:
yea ill barrage once its off cd
28:51
NEP_wilson_NEP:
and you shoot after you finished your cooldown
29:55
Dunkerque:
doesnt put it into kill range but does threaten the engie bleed situation ig
29:57
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah you need engi baby sit it
30:16
Dunkerque:
but yea this just confirms they dont really counter each other too well
30:22
NEP_wilson_NEP:
if engi is on front line or rep tank you cant repair bl fast enough
30:47
Dunkerque:
prob w/ cp's canone rush?
31:03
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah if fight brit
31:13
NEP_wilson_NEP:
but usf might need that 1 cp mg nest
31:31
Dunkerque:
u can prob fit canone->mg nest and be in time for ai blob
31:56
Dunkerque:
its more muni capped than anything if they rush it cp wise
32:06
NEP_wilson_NEP:
4cp for canone
32:11
Dunkerque:
also booby traps are pretty good
32:22
NEP_wilson_NEP:
5cp ai blob
32:28
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah you can fit it
32:41
Dunkerque:
and u can use booby trap to mitigate the loss of regis arty
32:47
Dunkerque:
can still have high vp pressure
32:51
NEP_wilson_NEP:
or sound the alram and canone auto fire into blob
33:16
NEP_wilson_NEP:
since it last 60 sec right?
33:30
Dunkerque:
what odes?
33:39
Dunkerque:
sound the alarm? yea
34:04
Dunkerque:
auto fire aint bad either
34:13
Dunkerque:
vs ai blob i mean
34:19
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah
34:25
Dunkerque:
doenst waste a cd
34:26
NEP_wilson_NEP:
use sound the alram next
35:52
NEP_wilson_NEP:
:D
35:58
Dunkerque:
yea thats pretty fast
38:31
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah we can scare those halftruck away
38:32
Dunkerque:
u wanna know something weird
38:42
Dunkerque:
the leig gets ambush bonus dmg now
38:46
Dunkerque:
it didnt used to before
38:56
NEP_wilson_NEP:
hmmm
40:22
Dunkerque:
rip cant get ambush bonus canone
40:54
NEP_wilson_NEP:
big sad
41:08
NEP_wilson_NEP:
but it might be the time we pull out canone
41:20
Dunkerque:
would u give up regi arty?
41:28
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yee
41:29
Dunkerque:
honestly theres a huge diff between 4cp and 5cp
41:42
Dunkerque:
5cp and ur too late to match the bishop side tech timing
41:57
NEP_wilson_NEP:
you need muni for sound the alram
42:05
Dunkerque:
it also has a better MU vs bishop now
42:19
Dunkerque:
before the bishop was never really worrried about dying to canone but it could threaten canone
42:24
Dunkerque:
now they both threaten each other
42:44
Dunkerque:
but the canone can counter barrage then switch to autofire and smoke to win the arty game
42:44
NEP_wilson_NEP:
and bishop reload got nerfed too
43:50
Dunkerque:
yea i think if the bishop wants to cb ur canone
44:02
Dunkerque:
u just tow away and use ur higher uptime
44:18
Dunkerque:
1 shot?
44:21
NEP_wilson_NEP:
*die*
44:23
NEP_wilson_NEP:
yeah
44:40
NEP_wilson_NEP:
if direct hit then oneshot
44:51
Dunkerque:
i would come up with how vet 1 8rad would buff the canone even more but we both need pak 38s
44:56
NEP_wilson_NEP:
so bishop need to gtfo or die
45:52
NEP_wilson_NEP:
hmm maybe you go with canone and i go with semovette and p3 spam
46:39
Dunkerque:
yea we can try diff combinations but yea i think one of us needs to go italian inf
46:47
Dunkerque:
its the dak 2v2 bg for better or for worse
49:55
Dunkerque:
i will say
50:14
Dunkerque:
i do think espi is the strongest proactive dak bg
50:40
Dunkerque:
like it forces the allies to react compared to other dak bgs
51:16
Dunkerque:
i think espi + inf is a strong combo since u have proactive espi and reactive inf
55:19
NEP_wilson_NEP:
i say it worth it
55:33
NEP_wilson_NEP:
without any hp upgrade
56:32
NEP_wilson_NEP:
with all hp upgrade and vehicle capture upgrade
57:43
NEP_wilson_NEP:
i think i just sit thre and trade
59:31
NEP_wilson_NEP:
semonvette has 12 rate of fire
59:50
NEP_wilson_NEP:
while sherman has 9
60:11
NEP_wilson_NEP:
so with upgrade it can trade with sherman equally
61:04
NEP_wilson_NEP:
*die* faster
61:08
Dunkerque:
i think its a 1 shot
61:19
Dunkerque:
only lived cause of armory
61:38
Dunkerque:
lmao
61:57
NEP_wilson_NEP:
obrital strike
62:04
NEP_wilson_NEP:
by dak god
64:41
Dunkerque:
so which one u wanna do
64:46
Dunkerque:
espi+inf or inf+bersa?
64:52
NEP_wilson_NEP:
inf bersa
64:57
Dunkerque:
k
65:03
NEP_wilson_NEP:
and then espi inf after
65:18
Dunkerque:
ggs then
65:21
NEP_wilson_NEP:
alright gg
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